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Il mare nel cassetto's avatar

It seems to me that the dialogue is becoming a clash of individualism rather than growth in community. There are no real cultural exchanges but it is a shouting of “me me me.”

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Mrc's avatar

You've hit on something really important here. I've noticed the same thing - too many creative spaces have become echo chambers where everyone's just waiting for their turn to talk about their own work.

The difference comes down to finding the right kind of community. The best creative groups have this unspoken understanding that everyone was there to learn from each other, not just get validation. People actually listened when someone shared a technique or talked through a creative problem.

I think what you're describing - that "me me me" energy - happens when creative spaces get too focused on outcomes rather than process. Social media has definitely made this worse. Everyone's performing their artist identity instead of actually doing the messy work of learning together.

But there are still good spaces out there. I've found that older, more traditional groups - like community darkrooms or printmaking studios - tend to have better dynamics. Maybe it's because the physical nature of the work forces you to slow down and actually engage with what others are doing.

The tricky part is that we can't just retreat into isolation because of these dynamics. We need to either find better communities or help create them. Sometimes that means being the person who asks genuine questions about someone else's work instead of waiting to talk about your own.

Have you found any creative spaces that feel more collaborative than competitive?

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Il mare nel cassetto's avatar

Right now I have only found self-centered communities where it matters how you dress what you listen to and how much social presence you have.

Is that how you grow? No.

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Mrc's avatar

That sounds incredibly frustrating. Communities focused on appearances and social status are exhausting and completely miss the point of creative growth.

You're absolutely right - that's not how you grow as an artist. Real creative development happens when people care more about your ideas and process than what you're wearing or how many followers you have.

Those surface-level communities might be the most visible, but they're not the only ones out there. Sometimes the most genuine creative spaces are the quieter, less flashy ones - maybe a small critique group meeting in someone's studio, or a community college workshop where people are just focused on learning the craft.

It might take some digging, but communities that prioritize substance over style do exist. Don't give up on finding your people - they're probably out there feeling just as frustrated with all the superficial stuff as you are.

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Il mare nel cassetto's avatar

I would also add that there is still some prejudice against female artists. It's as if we were supposed to have a different role and image. Sometimes it's frustrating.

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Mrc's avatar

You're absolutely right, and I'm sorry you're dealing with that. The art world still has so many unspoken expectations about how women artists should behave, what they should create, and how they should present themselves. It's really unfair.

I've witnessed this too - the way people react differently to confidence in women versus men, or how certain subjects get taken less seriously when explored by female artists. And the whole "female artist" label, as if gender is somehow the defining characteristic of the work.

It must be especially frustrating because these attitudes can be so subtle that calling them out feels like making a big deal out of "nothing." But it's definitely something real, and it clearly affects how women navigate creative spaces.

Finding communities where your voice is valued for what you're actually saying, not filtered through these outdated expectations, makes all the difference. They exist, but you're right - it shouldn't be this hard to find them.

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Il mare nel cassetto's avatar

This is also one of the reasons why I refuse to take part in “women's” events. Art has no gender and should not be ghettoized. I claim the right to deal with issues that are not considered “feminine.” I find much more inspiration online than offline, which is why I think it would be great to be part of groups where we can exchange ideas and discuss issues, techniques, and projects. You have no idea how many times I've tried to work in a group! And talking to you is a great gift!

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Il mare nel cassetto's avatar

This is also one of the reasons why I refuse to take part in “women's” events. Art has no gender and should not be ghettoized. I claim the right to deal with issues that are not considered “feminine.” I find much more inspiration online than offline, which is why I think it would be great to be part of groups where we can exchange ideas and discuss issues, techniques, and projects. You have no idea how many times I've tried to work in a group! And talking to you is a great gift!

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